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Impurity Pledge

August 4, 2017 by Greta Christina

image of banana with condom juxtaposed with text of impurity pledge and text describing impurity ball

At the upcoming Impurity Ball, a benefit for the Center for Sex and Culture and Godless Perverts on Saturday August 5, you’ll have a chance to take our Impurity Pledge. At the Purity balls we’re mocking, teenage girls pledge to stay virgins until marriage, and fathers pledge to protect their daughters’ virginity. So we’ve created an Impurity Pledge, representing the sexual values of Godless Perverts and the Center for Sex and Culture. We’ll have an appropriately pretentious ritual to accompany it.

An important piece of our values is consent — so participation in the Impurity Pledge will be entirely voluntary. Take it; don’t take it; take parts of it but not other parts — it’s totally up to you. You’re still welcome to join the party!

Godless Perverts Impurity Pledge

  • I pledge to support my fellow human beings in their consensual sexuality or asexuality.
  • I pledge to respect other people’s boundaries, whether sexual, emotional, or physical.
  • I pledge to communicate before, during, and after intimacy, including (but not limited to) negotiation, encouragement, safewords, checking-in, moans, grunts, screams, saccharine pet names, sincere praise, and contented periods of silence.
  • I pledge to educate myself about sexuality, maintaining curiosity within the bounds of respect.
  • I pledge to make my decisions about sexuality based on evidence, ethics, and consensual pleasure.

The Impurity Ball is at the Center for Sex and Culture, 1349 Mission St. in San Francisco (near 9th Street, close to the Civic Center BART). Saturday, August 5, 7-10 pm. Suggested donation $10-$30: no-one turned away for lack of funds. RSVP on Facebook or Meetup (RSVPs appreciated but not necessary). All proceeds to benefit the Center for Sex and Culture and Godless Perverts. Hope to see you there!

Filed Under: Events, Opinion

Why Kinksters and Queers Shouldn’t Gloat About Josh Duggar and Ashley Madison

September 4, 2015 by Chris Hall

Mike Huckabee (left) with Josh Duggar. Image via Tengrain/Flickr

Mike Huckabee (left) with Josh Duggar. Image via Tengrain/Flickr

This piece was originally read at the Godless Perverts Story Hour in San Francisco on August 29, 2015.

First, to state the obvious: Josh Duggar is not an easy person to like, or even tolerate. I’m not even going to take the high road here: The man is a child-molesting Christian extremist and sexual hypocrite. I personally wish him all the worst in life. I can understand the urge to dive headfirst into schadenfreude when the Internet starts humming with new reports of new facts that are, at the least, embarrassing to him and his family.

But as ugly as Josh Duggar’s history and beliefs are, I’m not celebrating the fact that he was exposed as a paid member of the Ashley Madison dating site. A lot of atheists and queers have grabbed onto the news that Duggar was seeking an extramarital affair through Ashley Madison with a grotesque glee. More than that, even. A lot of people who would otherwise insist that you have the right to choose your own gender pronoun, that you have the right to keep as many floggers and urethral sounds in your closet as you want and use them with whatever consenting adults you can find, who advocate for science-based sexual education and healthcare without shame, are taking a lot of pleasure in the mass doxxing of Ashley Madison’s subscriber base. This time, they think, all the people who have tormented them for their sexuality or gender identity finally felt what it was like.

I’ve seen enough of that online that it makes me worry about the integrity of both atheists and queer communities, although certainly not for the first time. I wish that this was some sudden epiphany instead of just another brick in the wall.

ashley-madison

Hacking Ashley Madison: A Victory for Sexual Shame

To give you the quick tl;dr version of this: No one who thinks that our attitudes towards sexuality need to be challenged should be cheering on the Ashley Madison hackers. The doxxing of Ashley Madison’s users was not a blow for sexual freedom, but for sexual shame.

That’s the essence of what this essay will say. For those of you who think I’m already getting boring, and want something sexier, you’re free to move on to cat pictures or porn while I finish crossing the t’s and dotting the i’s.

A lot of people feel free gloating over the hack because they swallowed the website’s marketing hook, line, and sinker. The site’s entire image was based on convincing everyone that users of Ashley Madison tended to be affluent, good looking heterosexual white men in search of a mistress that they could discreetly keep in a Park Avenue apartment. Because advertising never lies, a lot of the response has been based on the assumption that that’s exactly who was hurt when the information for approximately 37 million profiles was dumped onto the Internet for anyone to root through at will. From that, you wind up getting comments like this, from a reader of Dan Savage:

On the silver lining side … Millions of str8s are finding out just how horrible it is to live in terror of being outed for something that could cost relationships, employment, housing, etc. It ain’t easy bein’ green. ((At the risk of being snide, it’s hardly surprising that you’d get this from a follower of Dan Savage. I’ve seen no sign that he’s encouraged this specific response to the RentBoy bust, but he’s sowed the seeds for years, and this blithe dismissal of shaming is at least in part his legacy.))

I understand the anger, because if there’s one emotion I’m good at understanding, it’s being pissed off. But I also understand that even when your anger is justifiable, it can turn you into an asshole.

The reality of Ashley Madison, just like the reality of everything else about sex, was different from the image carved out during advertising strategy sessions. It’s appalling that so many people whose public identities are founded on being skeptical of the default expectations of sexuality and gender dumped that much-vaunted skepticism as soon as they saw a chance to score points on Josh Duggar or whatever other symbol of mainstream sexuality they discerned in that great Rorschach blot of data. I understand anger, but I also understand that you shouldn’t let it make you mean.

The reality of Ashley Madison is that although having an affair without the consent of your partner isn’t ideal, there are as many different reasons for doing so as there are people who have affairs. Not all of those reasons have to do with entitlement or privilege. Many of them just have to do with people who, like the rest of us, find themselves clawing desperately at the cages of sexual shame that our culture builds around us. Sometimes they just wind up taking the first exit that they can find, whether it’s ethically ideal or not. Any community that I’m going to consider myself a member of needs to acknowledge and have compassion for that reality.

Truth and Consequences of Doxxing

Already, people have died because of the Ashley Madison hack. Two suicides have been linked to it, one in Texas, the other in Toronto. There will probably be more deaths, and not all of them will be suicides. Some of the doxxed information belongs to people looking for same-sex relationships in Middle Eastern countries where homosexuality can be punished by imprisonment, flogging, or death. According to an article in The Inquisitr, over 50 of the doxxed accounts are for people living in Qatar, where you can go to jail for five years for being gay, and marital infidelity can be punished by 100 lashes. There are 1,200 email addresses from Saudi Arabia, where gay sex is punishable by death.

A gay man from Saudi Arabia wrote on Reddit about his own reasons for using Ashley Madison: “I was single, but used it because I am gay; gay sex is punishable by death in my home country so I wanted to keep my hook-ups extremely discreet,” he said.

I could go on. There are volumes upon volumes more examples that demonstrate the harm caused by dumping those names. But the point is that I shouldn’t need them. We should be far past this. In an interview with Vice Magazine’s Motherboard site, the hacking team claimed that their motives were noble. According to them, “We did it to stop the next 60 million,” from being defrauded by parent company Avid Life Media. But even when you’re talking about saving 60 million, 37 million is still a fuckload of collateral damage.

We should not need to count up suicides or executions to see the deliberate cruelty in exposing those names. We should recognize it immediately because anyone who’s wrestled with being  kinky or queer or trans or any other kind of non-normative identity has no doubt experienced that same cruelty to some degree or other.

Rentboy-Screen

How Ashley Madison Leads to the Rentboy.com Shutdown

I can’t help seeing Ashley Madison’s reflection in the news of the other big sex site that was brought down recently. Earlier this week, the NYPD and the Department of Homeland Security staged a massive raid on RentBoy.com, the biggest site for male escorts in the country. Make note of those agencies again: The Department of Homeland Security busted a site for male escorts.

RentBoy.com isn’t the first bust of its kind, but just the latest in a long tradition. Last year, the feds raided and shut down MyRedbook.com here in the Bay Area. The consequences were disastrous for sex workers both financially and in their ability to keep themselves safe from violent clients. Shortly after the MyRedbook bust, I talked to the late activist Shannon Williams about the consequences, and why MyRedbook was needed:

“[T]here was a whole section of [MyRedbook] that was chat rooms and forums,” says Shannon Williams, a sex worker who is also active with SWOP-Bay. “Some for clients, and then a whole bunch for sex workers. And that’s really important for sex workers because the vast majority really work in a very solitary way. They work alone, they don’t tell anyone in their lives, so their friends and family don’t know and other people don’t know. They may hold down straight jobs and they’re just moonlighting in the sex industry, so no one knows what they do, they’re very isolated. As you can imagine, for the kind of work it is, that’s an unhealthy way to work, and it’s lonely. So Redbook, and a site that was linked to it called MyPinkbook, created a community for these sex workers who didn’t have community in real life.” The community didn’t just give emotional support to people who couldn’t find it anywhere else; workers also exchanged information about dangerous clients and tips about how to keep themselves safe from predators and law enforcement. They were also able to screen clients based on references from people who had seen the client before.”

What the Ashley Madison hack and the raids of RentBoy and MyRedBook have in common is that they are all cases of policing sexual morals with the excuse that it’s for the good of the people who are hurt most in the end. The hackers claimed that it was to protect consumers against a fraudulent company with shitty security; the feds claimed that they made their busts to protect the sex workers themselves against exploitation. Neither of those groups are happier or safer in the end.

This is all that's left of Rentboy.com now.

This is all that’s left of Rentboy.com now.

The other similarity is that all of those events expose the same failure of integrity in supposedly “progressive” communities. People are allowed to dispute the worth of sex work and the rights of sex workers to a degree that we would never tolerate if the issue were the legitimacy of abortions or labor unions. We are allowed to shame people sexually as long as at least one of those exposed is a religious hypocrite.

Shame isn’t a thing that we’re for or against. More often, it’s a battle over where we’re going to wind up in the hierarchy of shame. Establishment gay organizations try to quietly guide leather daddies and dykes into the closet when the money is around. Kinksters try to avoid associating too openly with the sex workers. Strippers and pro-dommes often disassociate themselves from the full-service sex workers. Regardless of orientation or occupation, too many atheists just want to strut around and look down on the peasants who haven’t left church or become polyamorous. The fact is that for all our pretensions about being sex-positive, a lot of the time, we’re only positive about our own sexuality, and to hell with other peoples’.

I come to bury Josh Duggar, not to praise him. But I think that the burial can be accomplished without shoveling dirt over 37 million others as well.

Chris Hall

About Chris Hall

A somewhat nerdy pervert who looks (mostly) normal on the outside, Chris Hall is fascinated by the politics, culture, and art of sex. He has written for The Atlantic, Alternet, SF Weekly, Slixa, numerous anthologies, and a dog blog that will go discreetly unnamed here.

Filed Under: Opinion Tagged With: Ashley Madison, Josh Duggar, privacy, Rentboy, sex work

Godless Perverts is Not for Everyone: What Inclusivity Means to Us, and What It Doesn’t Mean

December 8, 2014 by Godless Perverts Leave a Comment

A Joint Statement by Greta Christina and Chris Hall

Godless Perverts is not for everyone.

We mean that in the gentler, more informal sense of the term: Not everyone is going to like it. Not everyone is going to enjoy discussion groups, entertainments, or parties centered on godless views of sexuality. They may not enjoy our frank, explicit explorations of sex, including a wide variety of unconventional sexualities; they may not enjoy the views of religion that come up in our meetups and entertainments — some of which are harshly critical and mocking, others of which are sympathetic. That’s okay. We can’t be all things to all people, and we’re fine with that.

But we’re also not for everyone in the somewhat harsher sense of the term: We are not open to everybody. There are going to be times when we have to tell people they’re not welcome.

This is hard. Almost everyone has had painful experiences with being told, openly or otherwise, that they’re not welcome in a group. Almost all of us have had painful experiences being picked last for a team at school, or being treated like an outcast at a social event. The two of us certainly have. It’s a difficult thing to experience, and it’s not an experience we dole out lightly. (The Geek Social Fallacies can be very seductive, including Geek Social Fallacy #1: Ostracizers Are Evil.) But the unfortunate reality is that if we want to create a welcoming space for people who support and value our mission, we will sometimes have to ask people to leave. [Read more…]

Filed Under: General, Harassment, Opinion Tagged With: matt taylor, racism, sexism, shirtstorm, social justice

Why Secular Hedonism Needs Social Justice

August 6, 2014 by Greta Christina Leave a Comment

Why Secular Hedonism Needs Social Justice

Originally published at FreethoughtBlogs

I’m going to go out on a limb here. If we want to create and maintain a secular society that values pleasure? If we want to create and maintain a society that recognizes that this life is the only one we have, so we should experience it and enjoy it as richly as we can? If we want to create and maintain a society that understands that our bodies are all we have, and that values those bodies? If we want to create and maintain a society that that recognizes pleasure, not as the only part of life worth working towards, but as one part of that life, and an important one?

We need to fight for social justice.

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Greta Christina

About Greta Christina

Greta Christina has been writing professionally since 1989, on topics including atheism, sexuality and sex-positivity, LGBT issues, politics, culture, and whatever crosses her mind. She is author of Coming Out Atheist: How to Do It, How to Help Each Other, Why Are You Atheists So Angry? 99 Things That Piss Off the Godless, and of Bending: Dirty Kinky Stories About Pain, Power, Religion, Unicorns, & More, and is editor of Paying For It: A Guide by Sex Workers for Their Clients. She has been a public speaker for many years, and is on the speaker's bureaus of the Secular Student Alliance. Her writing has appeared in multiple magazines and newspapers, including Ms., Penthouse, Chicago Sun-Times, On Our Backs, Skeptical Inquirer and numerous anthologies, including Everything You Know About God Is Wrong and three volumes of Best American Erotica. She is co-founder and co-organizer of Godless Perverts, a performance series and social community that promotes a positive view of sexuality without religion. She lives in San Francisco with her wife, Ingrid. You can email her at gcgreta (at) doubtfulpalace (dot) com, and follow her on Twitter at @GretaChristina.

Filed Under: Opinion Tagged With: history, religion, sexuality, social justice

Bisexual or Pansexual: Do We Have to Choose One?

July 25, 2014 by Chris Hall Leave a Comment

Bisexual or Pansexual - Choose One

A few days ago, we reposted Greta’s piece about “Bisexual or Pansexual?” from FreethoughtBlogs. Since then, the entire topic has seen a lot of discussion, not only on Greta’s blog, but throughout social media and other blogs. It’s not a new issue, naturally, and it arouses a lot of passion on both sides. This is my contribution — and mine alone — to the discussion as a whole.

Ambiguity, or: Drifting Afloat on a Small Raft Somewhere North of the Kinsey Scale

In truth, the debate over whether bisexual or pansexual is more appropriate is kind of a weird one for me to involve myself in. I’ve always been a little ambivalent to what label defines me best. The last piece I read at the Godless Perverts Story Hour dealt with that very ambivalence. I may repost that essay here, but in brief: I’m a cisgendered male who primarily likes women and people on the femme side of the spectrum. I’ve never seized on the terms “bisexual” or “queer” although they definitely describe real aspects of my sexuality. I suppose part of it is that, having developed so much of my sexuality in the Bay Area, I’ve also developed a little bit of an inferiority complex. I know scores of people who are so much bi-er, queerer, and kinkier than me, that it always felt just a little bit pretentious. And also, my sexuality is always in flux. It’s always a work in progress, so I’ve never quite settled on a single way to describe it. The best I can come up with is “curious.”

But still, I do have a lot of thoughts on the discussion of “bisexual” vs. “pansexual.” They’re complex enough that I decided that I’d like to give them their own entry instead of commenting on Greta’s post, or on Facebook.

Here’s the tl;dr version: I think both terms are fine. I don’t object to anyone identifying as either bisexual or pansexual, and think that everyone should use whichever one sounds right. However, I do have a big problem with attempts to stigmatize bisexual as a term that inherently excludes nonbinary genders.

Bisexual and Pansexual Pride Flags

Do we have to get rid of one to respect the other?

Words Mean Things — But What?

I’m a writer, which means I love language. I can be a bit of a pain in the ass over it, actually; I’m one of those people who would probably start a land war to save the Oxford comma and would support public floggings for people who put an apostrophe in the possessive form of “it.” I’m not going to make the stupid claim that words don’t matter. Of course words fucking matter. That’s the whole point of words.

That being said, I think that one of the most tedious and self-destructive aspects of lefty politics is the tendency to get into huge debates policing the proper use and meaning of words. The problem is that these discussions tend to be dominated by an academic model. They focus on the etymology of words, the historical roots, the dictionary definitions, as if by looking at these things in just the right way, we will be able to discern the one and only true meaning of each word. Ultimately, these discussions take a top-down view of language. Rather than trying to understand what people saying, they feel like an ongoing attempt to compile our own version of The Oxford English Dictionary or The Elements of Style, an unambiguous and official guide of what words mean and how to use them.

The debate over bisexual vs. pansexual is a perfect example of this. The argument boils down to the meaning of two Greek prefixes. If we’re treating language as a strictly literal device that can be easily captured by a dictionary definition, the case against “bisexual” is a strong one: bi- means “two” or “pair,” and pan means “all.” According to a dictionary, the difference between the two should be clear.

But you miss a lot about language if all you ever look at is a dictionary. Knowing nothing more than the dictionary definitions of words is a good way to become a shitty writer.

Like the shoes we wear, our words pick up residue as they move through the world. They’re covered with the mud, soil, ash, and blood that we trudge through, and it imbues them with meaning beyond the mere linguistic trappings. The meaning of “bisexual” isn’t just about a given Greek prefix. Like any other word, it changes according to who says it, and when, and where. If you’re browsing porn sites, “bisexual” will invariably mean two (or more) men in a three-way with a woman. Two (or more) women in a three-way with a man is just heterosexual porn. On a dating site, both men and women can be bi, and they may not even be into three-ways or polyamory.

The truth is that no matter what the dictionary says, no matter what the prefix meant to ancient Greeks, a lot of people don’t use “bisexual” as a way of saying “cisgendered men or cisgendered women only.” As has been pointed by others, even if you take “bi” literally, it doesn’t have to refer to the two genders of the traditional binary. For many people, it means “same and other,” and to dismiss that out of hand is to deny other people the right to define their own sexuality.

The truth is that like any other word, neither “bisexual” nor “pansexual” means anything by themselves. No word has meaning on its own, as if it were kept alone in a sterilized clean room. Meaning is imparted by the culture and conversations around a word, and as those change, so does the word itself. The more we have conversations about nonbinary gender as a matter of course, the more natural it seems to assume that a bisexual person is talking about that spectrum, not just two traditionally-defined genders. Without having those conversations, substituting “pansexual” is just a piece of social justice theater that signifies nothing.

A gender-neutral WC sign from Stockholm.  Flickr  / Creative Commons

A gender-neutral WC sign from Stockholm. Flickr / Creative Commons

Bisexuals vs. Binaries

The fluid nature of language is a pretty abstract issue compared to something else that I find even more relevant: The fact that people who identify as bisexuals are being asked to defend that identity when others are not. Pretty much all the words that we have to describe gender and sexual orientation evolved within the traditional binary, and reference it in one way or another. If we were to go back to playing the prefix game, “hetero” means “other” in Greek, and in our modern context, we assume that heterosexual men are attracted exclusively to women and that heterosexual women are attracted exclusively to men. Similarly, “homo” mean “same” in Greek, and in practice, if someone identifies as gay or lesbian, we assume that their sexual partners are at the same end of the gender binary as they are. It’s impossible to say that any of these terms don’t rely on the gender binary, but for most people, their use isn’t really an issue. You rarely hear lesbians, straights, or gay men chastised because the way they identify reinforces the gender binary.

Cover of Julia Serano's book, "Excluded"I owe a lot of my insight on this issue to trans activist and writer Julia Serano, especially her book Excluded, in which she writes:

Over the last several years, it has become increasingly common to hear people in queer communities claim that the word bisexual “reinforces the gender binary.” In October 2010, I wrote an Internet article (which I’ll refer to here as the “reinforcing” essay) challenging these claims. Specifically, the article illustrated how the reinforcing trope (i.e., the notion that certain genders, sexualities, or identities “reinforce” the gender binary, or heteronormativity, or the patriarchy, or the hegemonic-gender-system-of-your-choice) is selectively doled out in queer and feminist communities in order to police their borders. Since queer communities are dominated by non-feminine, cisgender, and exclusively gay and lesbian folks, these individuals are almost never accused of “reinforcing the gender binary.” In contrast, more marginalized identities (e.g., bisexual, transgender, femme) are routinely subjected to the reinforcing trope. ((Serano, Julia. Excluded: Making Feminism and Other Movements More Inclusive; Seal Press, 2013; pp. 81-82.))

Bisexual identities have always been red-headed stepchildren in the queer spectrum, and there’s no way that there can be a legitimate conversation about the word itself without recognizing that history. To this day, the B and the T are more a part of the stationery than the agenda for a lot of activist groups, and I have to be immediately suspicious of yet another effort to question the legitimacy of the term when there exists no similar effort to examine the implications of other sexual identifiers.

Ironically, the reason that bisexuality has always aroused suspicion is that it resists sexual binaries. Most people, even now, like being able to put everyone into one column or the other: either gay or straight. Because they won’t pick a side, because their very identity resists the idea that you don’t have to be one or the other, bisexuals have historically been dismissed as fencesitters, phonies, closet cases, sexual tourists, and disease carriers. And that history makes it much more vulnerable to having its validity questioned than terms like “gay” or “straight” which are located solidly at polar opposites of the binary. Nobody has ever questioned the existence of gay people or straight people, but the existence of bisexual people? That’s fair game.

Pansexual vs. Bisexual: Another False Binary?

Not a word of this is meant to disparage the word “pansexual,” nor to invalidate its use as an identity. I think it’s a perfectly fine word, although not one that I’m likely to use for myself. I am opposed to embracing it at the cost of discarding a word that has a long history of challenging rigid categories of sexuality; I’m even more opposed to characterizing the people who do identify as bisexual as members of a repressive old order who deny all genders other than the traditional two. To do so is to speak for them, disregarding what they say about their own sexualities and genders.

To be honest, I think that the idea that we need to choose between the two is a false binary in itself. I think that “bisexual” is a useful term, but it’s true that it’s an imperfect one. So is every other word that’s used to describe sexuality or gender. By their very nature, they’re approximations, quick thumbnail sketches that we toss out to people to give them a few broad, general facts about who we are and what we like. In the end, they don’t say much. Part of that is because trying to describe the sexuality of one person, whether your own or that of someone else, is like trying to hit a moving target while standing in the back of a pickup truck with bad shocks and broken steering column that’s zooming in the opposite direction. I’m a different person sexually — actually, in all ways — now than I was when I was twenty-five. And when I was twenty-five, I was a different person than I was when I was sixteen. But it’s not just me that’s changed; the world around me has changed. No one word — whether heterosexual, bisexual, pansexual, kinky, or queer — can encompass all the places that I’ve been, all the things that I’ve thought in that time.

Just as we’re now eschewing rigid binaries, we shouldn’t try to nail our identities down with a single word that we think will continue to describe us equally well through the decades. All of us need many words to describe what our sexualities and genders are, what they have been, and what they might be. I would even argue that you could be pansexual and bisexual at the same time. Perhaps you find that bisexual and pansexual each describe different aspects of yourself, or that one says what you need better than the other in a certain time and place.

If we wind up discarding “bisexual” for “pansexual” or vice-versa, we will have one less way to talk about sex and gender. In seeking diversity, our vocabulary could very well become more narrow and leave us less articulate about sex than ever.

Chris Hall

About Chris Hall

A somewhat nerdy pervert who looks (mostly) normal on the outside, Chris Hall is fascinated by the politics, culture, and art of sex. He has written for The Atlantic, Alternet, SF Weekly, Slixa, numerous anthologies, and a dog blog that will go discreetly unnamed here.

Filed Under: Gender, Opinion Tagged With: bisexual, gender, gender identity, LGBT, pansexual, politics

Bisexual or Pansexual?

July 19, 2014 by Greta Christina Leave a Comment

Bisexual or Pansexual, by Greta Christina

Cross-posted from Greta Christina’s Blog.

I’ve been pondering the question of whether I should keep using the word “bisexual” to describe myself, or whether I should start using “pansexual” instead. I wanted to run the pros and cons by y’all and get feedback.

On the one hand: The word “bisexual” feeds into the gender binary, in a way that I don’t feel comfortable with. It implies that either (a) there are only two genders, or (b) there are more than two genders, but I’m only attracted to two of them. Neither of these is correct. I accept the existence of people who don’t identify on a gender binary — and there are non-gender-binary-identifying people who I think are hot. “Pansexual” would be a more respectful word, and it would be more accurate.

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Greta Christina

About Greta Christina

Greta Christina has been writing professionally since 1989, on topics including atheism, sexuality and sex-positivity, LGBT issues, politics, culture, and whatever crosses her mind. She is author of Coming Out Atheist: How to Do It, How to Help Each Other, Why Are You Atheists So Angry? 99 Things That Piss Off the Godless, and of Bending: Dirty Kinky Stories About Pain, Power, Religion, Unicorns, & More, and is editor of Paying For It: A Guide by Sex Workers for Their Clients. She has been a public speaker for many years, and is on the speaker's bureaus of the Secular Student Alliance. Her writing has appeared in multiple magazines and newspapers, including Ms., Penthouse, Chicago Sun-Times, On Our Backs, Skeptical Inquirer and numerous anthologies, including Everything You Know About God Is Wrong and three volumes of Best American Erotica. She is co-founder and co-organizer of Godless Perverts, a performance series and social community that promotes a positive view of sexuality without religion. She lives in San Francisco with her wife, Ingrid. You can email her at gcgreta (at) doubtfulpalace (dot) com, and follow her on Twitter at @GretaChristina.

Filed Under: Gender, Opinion Tagged With: gender binaries, identity, LGBT, queer, sexuality

Sex Isn’t Always Positive

January 12, 2014 by Chris Hall 1 Comment

I think that Kitty Stryker is one of the smartest and most honest people talking about sexuality these days. The below video shows why.

I’m not in the same position as Kitty; I’m neither a sex worker, nor do I do sex education. Being seen as sexy isn’t part of my job requirement. But I do identify with a lot of what she says. The majority of “sex-positive” culture ((I know that there are a lot of people — including myself — who question the validity of that term, and whether it really means anything any more, but for lack of a better term that’s both colloquial and precise, I’m going to stick with sex-positive for right now.)) doesn’t talk enough about sexual fears and insecurities, and how to cope with them. Or, for that matter, how to accept that, as Kitty says below, being sexually “off” is part of our sexualities, too.

I think that a big part of the problem — although by no means all of it — is how much of the structure of sex positivity is based on feeding commercial ventures.  I have no problem with people feeding themselves, and I wish to hell that Kitty and others like her could go out there and make lots of money off their insights.

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Chris Hall

About Chris Hall

A somewhat nerdy pervert who looks (mostly) normal on the outside, Chris Hall is fascinated by the politics, culture, and art of sex. He has written for The Atlantic, Alternet, SF Weekly, Slixa, numerous anthologies, and a dog blog that will go discreetly unnamed here.

Filed Under: Opinion, video Tagged With: kitty stryker, sex education, sex positivity, sexuality

Atheism is Not a Luxury: A Letter to Chris Arnade

January 3, 2014 by Chris Hall Leave a Comment

On December 24th, otherwise known to Christians as Christmas Eve, The Guardian gave atheists a Christmas present of a different kind: an article by Chris Arnade, who himself identifies as an atheist, titled  “The people who challenged my atheism most were drug addicts and prostitutes.”

As you may have noticed, the article was a huge success on the Internet. It got over 25,000 Facebook likes. It also got reprinted by Alternet, whose Facebook posting seemed to perfectly sum up the main thrust of the Internet’s response to the article: “WOAH. Interesting take on atheism. Do you agree with the author?” [media-credit name=”Facebook Screenshot” align=”aligncenter” width=”504″][/media-credit]

I had already seen a lot of posts cheering on Arnade’s article, but that one really struck in my craw, probably because of its mix of brevity and hyperbole. As I write below, there wasn’t anything new, innovative, or remotely “WOAH” about the article, certainly not to anyone with any depth of knowledge about atheism’s history or its present. Its basic argument is that atheism is an affectation of the rich and the privileged, but the poor and downtrodden need the relief that faith gives them.

That is, in fact, a very, very old argument, and to make it stand at all, one needs to resort to a tangle of straw men and stereotypes.

Via Twitter, I began to exchange criticism with Chris Arnade, and he (quite rightly) noted that this subject was far too big for the 140-character limits of Twitter. He offered to let me call him on the phone and discuss my thoughts directly, but I was bus-hopping most of the day, and opted instead to open up via email. Below is what I sent to him.

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Chris Hall

About Chris Hall

A somewhat nerdy pervert who looks (mostly) normal on the outside, Chris Hall is fascinated by the politics, culture, and art of sex. He has written for The Atlantic, Alternet, SF Weekly, Slixa, numerous anthologies, and a dog blog that will go discreetly unnamed here.

Filed Under: Opinion Tagged With: media, poverty, sex work

Guest Post: Transphobia at the Godless Perverts Story Hour

December 23, 2013 by Godless Perverts Leave a Comment

Last month, we received this email concerning the August, 2013 Godless Perverts Story Hour, which was held at the Center for Sex and Culture. After discussing the issues among ourselves, and asking the permission of the author, we’ve decided to publish it here on the blog, so that the issues can be addressed publicly.

The tl;dr version is this; the author saw parts of M. Christian’s performance as transphobic, especially one line that mockingly speculated that Ann Coulter has a penis. This isn’t a new idea, and it’s been criticized by queer communities before, such as in this piece from last year, at The Advocate. (Caution: You have to watch a few seconds of video to get to the article.) There’s also this article, from Jezebel, which gives a lot of things that Coulter should be ashamed of. Whether she’s cis or trans isn’t one of them.

We’d like to thank Jessica for writing us about this. We welcome criticism and commentary on our events, especially if you think that we’ve gotten things wrong. The whole point of Godless Perverts is that atheist communities have often built spaces that are closed or hostile to all but a narrow spectrum of genders and sexualities. Godless Perverts exists to build spaces that are much more open. We apologize for failing to do that here. We know that building such spaces is a lot easier said than done, and we hope that people will continue to give us feedback.

We offered M. Christian the opportunity to respond to Jessica’s comments, but he declined. 

Dear Godless Perverts,

Let me start out by saying, I absolutely love the Godless Perverts Story Hour. Also, I apologize that the issue I want to address is in regards to something that happened quite a while ago. However, I still feel that it is an important thing to address if you are interested in creating a welcoming and inclusive space for queer and trans individuals.

At the Story Hour that happened last September, I was surprised by a transphobic humor piece read by M. Christian (the Jesus’s penis story). First, he equates having a penis and being a man, which I can understand is just a reflection of the cissexist society that we live in (though perhaps a queer writer should have known better). Then, he make a joke about Ann Coulter having a penis, which I can’t think of any other interpretation to, except Ann Coulter is a transwoman, and is therefor gross. I didn’t understand the joke, and saw a number of people, including transwomen in the audience, cringe. My partner and I strongly considered leaving at that point, and I overheard another group talking about leaving (they didn’t return after intermission). I assume it made many people in the audience (both cis and trans) feel unsafe and excluded.

Thank you for taking the time to read this email. I would really appreciate it if at the next Story Hour, you would address the idea that everyone is welcome in the space and call out transphobia in the future. I am sorry that I didn’t address this when it first came up.

Jessica

Filed Under: Gender, Opinion Tagged With: LGBT, readings, transgender, transphobia

Reminder: Social Club Tomorrow – Plus, a Few Words on Community & Harassment

September 30, 2013 by Chris Hall

First, we want to give a quick reminder to everyone here in the San Francisco area: Tomorrow is the first Tuesday of October, and that means that we’ll be gathering for the Godless Perverts Social Club at Wicked Grounds once again. If you’re all rested up from Folsom, or whatever you did this weekend, we strongly encourage you to join us. It’s a night of heresy, mixed with caffeine and munchies, in a kink-supportive environment. As we always remind people, the event is free, but we really, really want you to spend money at the front counter. Wicked Grounds is a huge asset to the San Francisco alt-sex communities, and we want to make sure they stay in business. Plus, we’ve started to get a reputation as good tippers among the staff there, and we want to keep it.

Although the Godless Perverts Social Club is a lot of fun, it’s really serious business to us as well. You’ve probably noticed that there’s been a lot of media chatter about atheist groups starting their own equivalents to churches. ((Update: I think I over-stated my own cynicism about the Sunday Assembly idea, and would like to make the point that it’s based on my own feelings about church, rather than a collective one. But on the whole, I’d rather not see atheism mimic all the structures of standard religion, and instead seek out its own forms of community building. I for one spent years going to Episcopal services as a lad, and found the whole process dry and dull, and not inspiring at all. Certainly, there are some who will find the Sunday Assemblies helpful. I wish them good luck; we all need to build support and community in any we can. But for myself, I feel like I’ve been down that path once already.)) Although I personally find the idea kind of pointless, and counter to what’s great about being atheists, the fact that some people like the idea points to something that we have to acknowledge: one of the most devastating things that people lose when they leave religion is not the sense of morality, or eternal reward after death, but the sense of belonging to a community. It’s also one of the reasons that people are often suspicious of atheists: we’re perceived as people who have cut themselves off from the community.

And so, the Godless Perverts Social Club is an attempt to at least partly fill that need. The feeling we want people to go away with is that they are accepted for their godlessness, their queerness, or their perviness.

Towards that end, it is very important to us that people of all genders, identities, and sexual orientations feel comfortable hanging out at the Social Club or any other Godless Perverts events. We’re bringing this up not because we’ve had any problems so far, but because this has become a huge problem in the atheist and skeptic communities at large, and we want to make sure that it doesn’t become a problem for us.

So let me just say this: although we don’t have a formal harassment policy yet, we will not tolerate harassment or unwelcome sexual advances at our events. If you’re at a Godless Perverts event and are made uncomfortable by someone or something, please tell us. You can approach any of our people in charge, or contact us through the website. We’re also interested in hearing more general feedback on how to make Godless Perverts a better environment. We aren’t opposed to people managing to hook up at our events, but keep in mind basic consideration: if someone indicates that they’re not interested, or that they’re uncomfortable, then back off.

These are just a few elementary thoughts, and as we grow, we’ll expand on them and develop more specific strategies. But for now, know that we’re committed to growing a community that’s accepting of atheists of all genders, races, orientations, and identities. If you ever think we’re fucking up on that goal, let us know.

Chris Hall

About Chris Hall

A somewhat nerdy pervert who looks (mostly) normal on the outside, Chris Hall is fascinated by the politics, culture, and art of sex. He has written for The Atlantic, Alternet, SF Weekly, Slixa, numerous anthologies, and a dog blog that will go discreetly unnamed here.

Filed Under: Gender, Harassment, Opinion

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